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Purchasing any service or product is an emotional event. A customer buys not primarily to own the item or have the service, but to meet emotional needs: to seek comfort, reduce stress, fulfill social needs, achieve something significant, change status or lifestyle or even invest in the future.

Your attorney-prospects are no different from any other retail shopper. For example, a woman shopping for lipstick at a makeup counter is satisfying the emotional need to feel good, look pretty or just indulge herself after a hard week at her job. When attorneys purchase your CLNC® services, they are satisfying emotional needs that are high-stake such as:

  • Properly representing their client,
  • Winning the case,
  • Attaining partnership status,
  • Garnering referral business from other attorneys,
  • Maintaining their comfortable lifestyle, and
  • Fulfilling a deep desire to be a winner, not a loser.

They need to believe and validate that they are making a wise choice when they hire you. Your attorney-prospect is shopping and shopping is legal.

Understanding that successful attorneys use emotion in buying decisions just like the rest of us gives you an edge in marketing to them. Credentials and qualifications are nice, but that’s not why attorneys buy. What does sell is getting the attorney-prospect to connect emotionally with how your nursing experience and credentials will make a difference in his medical-related cases.

So how do you get the attorney to shop ’til he drops on your next interview? By tapping into the five senses.

  1. Sight. First impressions are everything. As much as 55% of a decision is made before either person says a word. Fair or not, people size you up and form an impression of you within seconds of meeting you. We all do this. Remember that blind date you had years ago? You knew instantly, and before words were exchanged, whether you would have a good time or even go out again.

Are you neat or sloppy? Do you stand tall or slouch? Are you carrying an organizer or a handful of loose papers?

Before you go on any interview, take the time to check out your physical appearance. Dress professionally and conservatively. Pay attention to details – trim your nails, polish your shoes, and buy one powerful business outfit. Then stand tall and walk with confidence.

Pay equal attention to the appearance of your promotional package. A sloppy or amateur promotional package suggests that you are an amateur legal nurse consultant who will submit a poor quality work product. Use the promotional package developed by the Institute or hire a professional designer and copywriter. Your promotional package must look as good as you do.

  1. Sound. Another 38% of a first impression comes from how we speak. When we’re nervous, we naturally tighten up and our voices turn squeaky. We talk too fast, stumble over our words or forget entirely what we intended to say.

Have a written checklist of points you want to make. Rehearse these main points well in advance of the interview. Read them again shortly before you enter the meeting. Then relax and concentrate on listening to the attorney. Taking your mind off yourself to pay attention to what the attorney is saying will help you relax. Focus on the attorney, not your state of discomfort and you will conduct a much stronger interview.

  1. Taste. How do you respond when a prospect offers you coffee, tea or a soft drink? If the attorney is having something, I recommend you have something too. People associate positive feelings and emotions with their favorite drink, so go ahead and have the same drink unless it’s just not palatable to you. For example, a cup of hot tea symbolizes both relaxation and renewed energy to me. While accepting a drink may seem like you are imposing, it will not only relax you, but will also create an immediate bond between you and the attorney-prospect.
  1. Smell. Avoid heavy perfumes and colognes. A scent you find delightful might turn another person’s stomach. Any heavily applied scent will be distracting. Usually, the best choice is to avoid perfume and cologne altogether.
  1. Touch. Offer a firm handshake. Once you’ve finished with the introductions, confidently place your promotional package and sample work product in the attorney-prospect’s hands. Like trying on a lipstick color, sampling any product makes the buying decision easier. When the attorney touches your business card, introductory letter, brochure and sample work product, he sees and feels the professional quality you deliver.

One of the biggest mistakes I see beginning legal nurse consultants make is neglecting to put together hypothetical report samples. With your sample in the attorney’s hands, that attorney holds a report similar in size, weight, texture and content to the reports he needs and you can provide to help win cases.

The ability to give your attorney-prospect this hands-on, multi-sensory experience of your work product is the advantage of one-on-one selling. A smart CLNC® consultant takes every opportunity to capitalize on this advantage to help the attorney-prospect make a positive decision.

Yes, shopping is legal, but make your next interview more than a shopping experience. Make it an emotional confirmation of the attorney’s need for your CLNC® services and validate that you are an investment in the attorney’s legal practice. If you succeed in doing so, the attorney will shop ’til he drops with you and smile while he does so.

Shopping anyone?

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Hi Vickie, I just had to tell you the great news. I just finished my taxes and I am happy, no make that thrilled, no make that “over the moon with joy” to tell you that I earned more than $100,000.00. I went ahead and incorporated and named my CLNC® business when the work started coming in faster than I could keep up. I just keep working hard trying to keep up with all of the work and make sure that I still put out top-quality work product. I was so happy when one of my attorney-clients forwarded my information to another law firm. I did a case for them and they were so happy with the “excellent CLNC® work product” that I provided that they immediately forwarded another case to me.

I have been keeping so busy and I absolutely love being able to work for myself. I still have the law firm that I first started working for, and I had originally worked for the pharmaceutical attorneys, but from there I have also gotten cases from the medical-malpractice attorneys, nursing home negligence and more. I am keeping so busy that I am going to have to start hiring CLNC® subcontractors. Luckily I met this incredible nurse and I convinced her to go through your CLNC® Certification Program, which she just recently completed. Now that she is a CLNC® consultant, I am ready to ask her to subcontract with me on my huge case load.

I now have cases going to trial. I am working with three attorney-clients that are in the first round of trials and two attorney-clients in the second group of trials. These cases all need detailed chronological summaries – something that I have been providing to these law firms for deposition preps.

Anyway, I just thought I would let you know how happy I am that I became a Certified Legal Nurse Consultant. I love the way that I can combine my love and knowledge of nursing with my love of law. Thank you, Vickie, a hundred times over for helping me become a successful Certified Legal Nurse Consultant. You rock!

I hope my positive experiences will help other Certified Legal Nurse Consultants go for that BIG success. I feel honored to share my CLNC® successes.

Sharon Miller, RN, BSN, CLNC

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Part of every Private NACLNC® Apprenticeship includes making calls to attorneys in your home market. Initially Sheryl did not want to make the calls, but she went all in, made the calls and got her first and now steady attorney-client. Congratulations Sheryl.

Certified Legal Nurse Consultant Sheryl Bacon

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Here’s a great example of a CLNC® consultant who didn’t underprice herself. She stood tough with attorneys who tried to negotiate her into a set fee on a case instead of her regular hourly rate. She didn’t bite that hook and now projects that she’ll bill $20,000 on the case. Congratulations for standing firm Denise, and earning what you are truly worth!

Vickie introduces Certified Legal Nurse Consultant Denise Harden

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In my 2/17 blog “Ditch Unnecessary Complexities in your CLNC® Business,” I shared the 2010 theme we adopted here at Vickie Milazzo Institute – “Ditch Unnecessary Complexities.”

One strategy to help you with this goal is to ditch perfectionism. As nurses, perfectionism is not only rewarded, it’s expected. You make a mistake and someone can die. I’m sure those kind of mistakes don’t go over well with your boss either (not to mention the patient). But do your internal documents for your legal nurse consulting business have to be so perfect? Misguided perfectionism can keep you from stepping out and going for the big things for your CLNC® business or it can rob you of enjoying your business and your life.

I am surrounded by perfectionists (lots of Virgos) at Vickie Milazzo Institute and I often suffer from the perfectionism obsession myself. Ten drafts of a document is not uncommon. Over the years, we’ve had to acknowledge that perfectionism is important for the big things that count (like a report for your attorney-client) but can actually detract us from the big important things when we apply it to the small insignificant tasks that we all have to do. The advent of computers has made this problem worse than ever. In the old days of typewriters, it was difficult to revise and reprint a document and people were very careful about making revisions. Today, we can move a comma or a line of type and reprint it to our heart’s content without even questioning the gain.

Growing up in New Orleans, Louis Armstrong was an icon. I often think if he had been a perfectionist, we would never have heard him sing “What a Wonderful World.” The great Satchmo came close to perfection as a trumpet player, but his voice, his unique, gravelly voice was certainly untraditional – sometimes not hitting any recognizable notes, sometimes incomprehensible, but ALL THE TIME – his own unique expression of his interpretation of the music.  And it wouldn’t BE such a wonderful world without THAT song.

If you think about it, when you’re demanding perfection on the wrong stuff as a legal nurse consultant, you too miss notes, high and low. Then, instead of moving on, you’re sidelined by rejection or imperfection. Now, instead of looking at your attorney-prospect list, you’re looking in the refrigerator. And guess what? Unless you work in the morgue, there are no attorneys in the refrigerator!

Think back to the first attorney who said no to you. Is that so important today? Can you even remember that attorney’s name?

Ditch perfectionism! Lighten up when you pick up the phone for that next attorney call or write that next report. If you don’t get that perfect case, or your perfect attorney-client doesn’t give you those perfect glowing reviews, don’t give up… That’s nothing more than a perfect experience to learn from.

Only you can properly assess where it’s okay to ditch perfectionism in your CLNC® business, but do make it a goal. When you ditch perfectionism, you free yourself to spend time on the important and BIG things that will propel your legal nurse consulting business to the next level and keep those attorney-clients coming your way.

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As I embarked on my new career as a Certified Legal Nurse Consultant, I received a case from an attorney and I wanted to do the best job ever. So I reviewed the records over and over until I knew those records like the back of my hand.

I met with my attorney-client to discuss my opinions on the case and as I was sitting in her office going over the events and the records that supported each opinion, I felt as though I was speaking in slow motion and so below her level of knowledge. All of a sudden she stood up behind her desk and yelled out, “What?” I stopped in my tracks and sat there with what I am sure was a blank stare. I didn’t know what I did wrong or what I had said to offend her. She continued, “What did you just say?” I repeated what I had said about what had happened to this patient in a moment of critical care. She again said, “What? Where did you find that information? Show me where it says that.” With trembling hands, I showed her and she ran out of the room. I sat there holding my breath. I was sure I had said something horribly wrong. Maybe I insulted her and didn’t realize it.

After some time, she returned to the room with two gentlemen. I thought to myself, okay, these must be the bouncers and I am being thrown out. The two men sat down next to me. I had the records in my lap and dropped them. I am sure I wasn’t even breathing. Was I blue yet?

The older male attorney started to explain to me that I had found the missing link. I had found the smoking gun. I had found… whatever other metaphors I can come up with. I had found information that was invaluable in the case. No one had found what I had found, not even the MD experts. Oh, and by the way, I could breathe again.

I had found the key to winning the case and we did ultimately succeed in winning. I felt so good.

I now consult with two other attorneys in that firm and also consult for two of their other offices. But on that day, I felt like I could conquer the world. This experience gave me the confidence I needed to keep going. And here I am ten years later still going strong.

Nikki J. Chuml, RNC, FMC, PRN, CLNC

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Have you ever attended a social event or a networking function where you knew no one? Were you “out there,” introducing yourself and getting acquainted? Or were you a “wallflower” stuck like ivy against the wall in need of a bolder soul to drag you into the crowd?

Tom and I just got back from an event where we didn’t know anyone, except for the hostess. But there were definitely plenty of people worth knowing. At first, we kept ourselves stuck behind the protection of good food, good wine and the good company of each other. But let’s face it, we could have stayed in the comfort of our own home and enjoyed that without venturing to downtown Houston on a rainy night.

Simultaneously we looked at each other and knew it was time to move out from our protective shell and start meeting people. We couldn’t wait for people to come to us. We started with people who were standing alone and then moved on to groups large and small. Small talk was easy. We’d ask a person what they thought of whatever they were eating and then it was easy to move the conversation to what they did, their connection to the hostess, etc. We met some very interesting people (bankers, local television broadcasters, people who worked for Houston’s Metro, women entrepreneurs and a few attorneys too) and when it was time to leave we left satisfied that we not only enjoyed the event but made the most of it.

Believe it or not, boldly introducing myself doesn’t always come naturally. But I keep in mind that contrary to the Cinderella stories that occasionally make the news, most wallflowers never get “discovered.” Had Cinderella arrived at the ball on foot and wearing her sooty rags, it’s unlikely the prince would have given her a second look. Instead, six white horses delivered her to the castle in a golden carriage. She made a grand entrance in her ritzy new ball gown and spectacular slippers. However, if like me, you don’t have a golden carriage or white horses at your disposal, you’ll need to find other ways to make that good impression and avoid being a wallflower.

To raise your Certified Legal Nurse Consultant business to the next level, don’t waste a single networking opportunity being a wallflower. Your legal nurse consulting business will grow in direct proportion to the impact you make wherever you go but you’ll have to be the one to make that impact.

Try and talk with everyone and introduce yourself with a firm handshake. Remember, just about everyone at any event you attend will know an attorney or someone who knows an attorney. If you’re not sure what to say, always ask the person something about themselves. Most people leap on that topic. You can also ask how they are enjoying themselves. I have found these questions to be the easiest ways to get a conversation started.

Try using these tips the next time you find yourself at an event with a bunch of strangers and you won’t need your ritzy ball gown or even spectacular glass slippers but you might be able to eventually afford a golden carriage or other transportation of your dreams.

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As registered nurses, we were trained to give and to take care of others. But to successfully manage your legal nurse consulting business you must also be a strong negotiator, willing to ask for what you want and what you need. As nurses, you’re not trained to negotiate, but luckily, you’re born negotiators even though you don’t necessarily think about it that way. You negotiate with patients about taking their meds. You negotiate with doctors to assure the appropriate medical orders are written for the patient. You negotiate with hospital administrators for safe staffing and delegation. You are always negotiating as a nurse and usually it’s for the benefit of someone other than yourself, although you also negotiate with the cafeteria to keep the food from killing you and you negotiate your way through shifts with issues that would make lesser mortals weep.

When you walk into an interview with an attorney, you’ll be using your negotiation skills on behalf of yourself and your legal nurse consulting business.

Attorneys are masters at negotiation, so these inside strategies I’ve learned through 28 years of business negotiation will give you the confidence and the know-how to negotiate with the best of the best.

  1. Ask for everything you want at the beginning of the negotiation. Don’t add on as you go along. It makes you seem unfair and looks like you’re just pushing the envelope to get more. For example, if you tell an attorney your fee is $125/hr and his reply is “That’s very reasonable,” you can’t jump in and say, “I really want $150/hr.”

    Be prepared and think through what is really important to you and your legal nurse consulting business before you sit down to negotiate. Have your list of what points you need and what points you’re willing to give up. Some people do keep score and being able to track what you really need will help you determine your negotiating success.
  2. Ask for more than you think you can get and don’t jump too fast to say “yes” to the first offer someone makes; even if you think it’s fair. Assess the situation and the person making the offer. Use and trust your strength of intuitive vision to diagnose how far you can go. This is not being greedy, this is being a strong negotiator. And you’d be surprised at what offer could be around the corner. It’s yours for the taking if you only ask for it.

    I recently mentored a Certified Legal Nurse Consultant on a toxic tort case involving 40 plaintiffs. The attorney firmly told her that instead of her hourly fee, he would pay her a flat rate for each of the 40 cases because he felt there would be a lot of “cut and paste” from one case to another.

    The CLNC® consultant was convinced that she would lose this large project unless she agreed to the attorney’s terms. My advice was to stand firm on her hourly fee because she had no way of knowing before the reviews which cases would be simple, and which would be complex. Locking herself into a flat fee per case could cost her. Even though the plaintiffs all shared the same toxic exposure, they each were sure to have different medical histories (some more complex than others) which could influence causation. Not to mention the variation in the volume of medical records to sort through. The attorney would still benefit from any efficiencies she gained as she worked on the cases even with an hourly billing structure. Likewise, she would not risk losing money on the deal. The CLNC® consultant stood firm on her fee structure, and as I predicted, the attorney agreed to her hourly rate.

    You must be willing to walk away from a deal, especially when that deal is not favorable to you. If you don’t like the deal with one attorney, remember there are over 1,180,000 more waiting for you to call.
  3. Do not get emotional during negotiations. Appear detached even if you’re not. I negotiated a contract with a guy who was very emotional. Every time he took off on a point, I’d let him vent and then ask him what he didn’t like about that point. I calmly listened to his concerns and nicely pointed out how the contract supported both parties. As the negotiation went on and his rants slowly ran out, his blood pressure (and my anxiety level) came down. I conceded a number of little points because I knew he was keeping score and would have to win. I stuck to my guns on the important ones. Those points that I needed to win or at least couldn’t bend on, I blamed on my attorney, saying “I’d really like to do this but my attorney feels it’s necessary that I….” This took the pressure off me and helped to end what could have been a line of arguments. We hammered out a deal that was fair to both of us. Know in advance the points that you must win and what you can give up.
  4. Don’t assume your bargaining power is weak just because your business is smaller or that you need the deal more than the other party. Negotiating can be challenging when faced with the perception of uneven power positions, but weakness is one thing you can’t allow the other side to see. I have rewritten entire contracts sent to me from companies way bigger than mine who claim they can only use their contract with no changes. But I prevailed and they used mine!

    Go in knowing and believing in what you have to bring to the business relationship. Even if you believe the attorney-prospect holds the power card, don’t underestimate your unique selling position and how it benefits the attorney-prospect. It’s your job to educate the attorney about how you can make a positive difference in the outcome of his cases.
  5. Never say anything off the record – “Just between you and me, I want ‘X’ but I’ll settle for ‘Y.’” In negotiations everything is on the record and if you say that, more than likely you will end up with “Y” or even less than “Y.”

    Never let the other party bully you or treat you in a paternalistic manner. I’ve worked with plenty of attorneys, met some very tough negotiators and seen many different negotiation styles at work. Surprisingly, it was a non-attorney who negotiated like a pit bull. Realizing what I was up against, I took a long walk and role-played with Tom. Role-playing helped me to anticipate every possible objection and get myself into a Zen-like state. When it came time to negotiate for real, I was centered and ready for him and we reached a win-win. If I’d gone head-to-head with him, like two pit bulls, instead of handling it as I did, the negotiations would have failed.

Use these 5 strategies the next time you are negotiating with an attorney.

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The day before Thanksgiving is the perfect time for all Certified Legal Nurse Consultants to contemplate all that we appreciate about each and every attorney-client and what they mean to our CLNC® businesses. Plus, it’s time to start thinking about holiday gifts for your attorney-clients. I asked the CLNC® Pros to share some of their favorites, along with some gift-giving strategies for their legal nurse consulting businesses. Check out Larry’s strategy – giving gifts any day of the year. I hope you all have a Thanksgiving filled with love and gratitude.
 
I typically send cards and gifts once a year around Christmas time. And I always send thank-you cards whenever my attorney-clients refer me to an attorney-colleague.
 
Over the years, I have sent a variety of gifts, ranging from bottles of wine, wine goblets and crystal votive holders. While my clients always loved the gifts, I think the most appreciated is a personalized note of thanks.
 
My clients always respond that the gift is never expected but always appreciated. They reaffirm that our attorney-CLNC® team consistently brings value to their cases, and while I appreciate them, they also appreciate me!
 
I always send cards to the legal secretaries and paralegals. Sending a personalized message expressing my appreciation for their teamwork during the year keeps our communications running smoothly.
 

Suzanne E. Arragg, RN, BSN, CDONA/LTC, CLNC

 
I give gifts to my attorney-clients primarily at holiday time. There have been exceptions when I have given a birthday gift to a special attorney-client. I often give gift baskets filled with food that can be enjoyed by the office staff, and they are all appreciative. I have also found some very specialized attorney gifts that have gone over well. I found a chocolate scale of justice that was a huge hit! I have also found some desk items that are personalized and have symbolic law decorations. These were special and personalized, so they were most appreciated.
 
I have a significant attorney-client who gives me a tremendous amount of work. I found out from his staff when his birthday was and had birthday balloons delivered to his office. Attached to it was a “lawyer” teddy bear. He was so excited about this and has told the story over and over to other attorneys and clients.
 

Dale Barnes, RN, MSN, PHN, CLNC

 
I give Harry and DavidTM gourmet food gift boxes as Christmas gifts to my attorney clients. I put both the attorney’s and paralegal’s names on the gift tag.
 
One Christmas, I sent a gift box to an attorney-client for whom I had just successfully finished a case. When I called a few days before Christmas to see what other CLNC® services I could offer to the attorney, the attorney mentioned that the gift box was appreciated by everyone in his office and that he had not had the experience of receiving such a nice gift in a long time. A few weeks into the New Year, the attorney contacted me about another case requiring an expert witness. He mentioned that his paralegal had suggested that he “call Connie.” I like to think that the paralegal remembered my awesome CLNC® services, but there is something about good food that seems to say “Remember me!”
 

Connie S. Chappelle, RN, MN, CLNC

 
My favorite gifts to give are wine baskets. I sometimes give gift certificates and tell my attorney-client to have a lunch on me. I also give gift certificates and baskets of candy to the paralegals.
 
I met with an attorney-client for a lunch meeting one day and he said, “Let me buy you lunch.” We had a great lunch and discussed business. When it was over, he said, “This one is on me.” When the bill came, he pulled out the gift certificate I had given him and paid the bill. I had to laugh. Did I just pay for my lunch and he got credit for it? Oh well. I got a case, so all is good.
 

Nikki J. Chuml, RNC, CCE, FMC, CLNC

 
I give gifts any day of the year. I include a bag of Ghirardelli chocolates along with my promotional package to potential attorney-clients. This gift produces sweet results. The sweet results include the receptionist putting me through to leave a voice mail for the attorney 100% of the time if the attorney is not in or if the attorney is busy at the time of my call.
 
I also include the gift of a timeline with every written report (meritorious or not) and have most recently decided to include a Microsoft® PowerPoint 2007 story presentation along with the traditional written report if the case is meritorious. A 5-6 slide PowerPoint presentation with potential case theme included, along with voice narration, written script and eye-catching pictures is quite the unexpected gift and believe it or not quite easy to put together using PowerPoint.
 
My motto is “Think and market outside the box in order to fulfill attorney needs.” Dare to be creatively different. Dare to be remembered!
 

Lawrence H. Frace, RN, CLNC

 
I give birthday gifts to my favorite attorney-clients. I send them a basket of goodies with a gift card to their favorite coffee place. I try to make the baskets different every year. I have done chocolate-covered strawberries, wine baskets, Italian goodies and decorated cookies. Once I gave an attorney who had just passed the bar a Vermont teddy bear that was dressed like a lawyer. He was so surprised and five years later, he still has this bear displayed in his office. My attorney-clients do not expect these gifts from me so they are always surprised and thankful.
 

Dorene Goldstein, RNC, CLNC

 
I send my attorney-clients gifts to keep my name in front of them either when they have achieved certain goals or for the holidays.
 
My favorite gifts are ones that are unusual and personalized for the individual attorney-client. Any gift that portrays thoughtfulness, individuality and creativity are the most appreciated. I like to make my attorney-clients feel like they are my most important client. I send a gift, or better yet, stop by with “just because” gifts such as a themed gift basket or a gift certificate.
 
On occasion, I give the members of the litigation team bagels and cream cheese with my business cards taped on the boxes. Last Easter, I delivered baskets filled with gum and candy and my business cards! A simple handwritten thank-you note can do wonders for your relationship with the litigation team.
 

Vanessa R. Heckman, RN, MSN, CNP, CLNC

 
I give gifts at Christmas and for birthdays, Boss’s Day, Administrative Professionals Day, Paralegal Appreciation Week and at the conclusion of successful verdicts or settlements.
 
Gift cards to nice restaurants are always appreciated, a good bottle of wine (if you’re like me and you aren’t a wine expert, ask friends who appreciate fine wine to give you suggestions), tickets to concerts, ballet and the symphony are also nice if I know it’s something they would like, I will also periodically take food to attorney-clients who are close to my home, and send food to attorneys who are too far away to deliver personally. One of my CLNC® colleagues turned me on to Edible Arrangements. It’s a wonderful, unique gift idea. Everyone loves the fresh fruit dipped in chocolate. I also send Cheryl & Company gourmet cookies.
 
I always remember the paralegals and secretaries I work with. I give them the same types of gifts I give to my attorney-clients, only on a smaller scale, or little personal gifts like Bath & Body gift cards or manicures.
 
The first time I gave a small gift to a receptionist who answered the phone at one of my attorney-client’s offices, she cried. She told me no one had ever given her a gift thanking her for her help. It made me want to cry too.
 
I gave one of my med-mal attorney-clients a cactus plant after a big successful trial with a note that said “You are as tough as a cactus – congratulations on your success.” He loved it. He had the cactus for years until a helpful cleaning lady watered it every day and drowned it. He wasn’t happy with her.
 

Jane A. Hurst, RN, CLNC

 
Everyone seems to enjoy a really great bottle of red wine along with some excellent chocolate, an appointment book for the following year and perhaps some homemade raspberry jam or homemade pesto. They all seem to love the contents and the personal touches.
 

Camille Joyner, RN, CCM, CLNC

 
I send a good old-fashioned handwritten thank-you note on beautiful personalized stationery. I am able to personalize my wording and thoughts, give the recognition and thanks deserved and I’m confident that I did so in a professional manner. It is always a pick me up to receive a mailed handwritten note of congratulations and praise.
 

Julie Somen-Becker, RN, BSN, CLNC

 
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Legal nurse consulting is a relationship business, so I asked the CLNC® Pros to describe their favorite attorney-clients. Each one is different, but pay attention to some of the common themes throughout. Developing satisfying relationships with our attorney-clients is one thing Certified Legal Nurse Consultants love about owning their CLNC® businesses.
 
My favorite attorney-client also happens to be my first attorney-client. He is one of the top nursing home defense trial lawyers in the nation. During conversation I can always see his mind working; formulating strategies and trial themes. He always takes the time to listen and learn more about my long-term care nursing experience, bounce ideas around or simply chat about life. He consistently treats me with respect and he supports my CLNC® consulting practice by sending me cases and referring other attorneys to me.
 
  Approximately one year ago, he hired me as a testifying expert on a nursing home elder abuse case. The case involved an 87-year-old gentleman with multiple medical conditions who was admitted to a skilled nursing home for “failure to thrive.” Although he was at risk for falls, after rehabilitation services were completed, over the next year and half he had gained weight, ambulated independently with the use of a cane, enjoyed an active social life, making the facility his “home.” Unfortunately, he did fall, sustain a hip fracture, underwent an ORIF, was diagnosed with a cerebral hematoma requiring burr holes to relieve pressure and eventually passed away.
 
  During the deposition, as I handed my CV to the opposing counsel, my attorney-client recommended to the opposing attorney, “You should keep that…it will come in handy later.” I paused, and briefly looked at him. My mind started wandering, “Gee…this attorney is marketing for me…I can’t believe it!” Well…the trial went forward and we received a defense verdict. The jury did not find abuse. Approximately 6 months from the time my deposition had been taken, that same plaintiff’s attorney called me and ask me to consult on a new case. I gladly accepted!
 
  Vickie teaches that when you are giving a deposition to always view the opposing counsel as a potential client. Vickie is definitely on point!
 
 

Suzanne E. Arragg, RN, BSN, CDONA/LTC, CLNC

 
My favorite attorney-client is a new client. He is a junior partner in a large defense firm and the first case he hired me for contained 8,000 pages of records. After completing my review, I explained to the attorney that he needed to speak with one of the plaintiff’s treating physicians and I assured him that this treating physician’s opinion and testimony would actually be favorable to the defense position.
 
  After securing the meeting, it was an hour and a half drive together to meet with this treating physician. I was on pins and needles, yet confident I was correct in my interpretation and evaluation of this case. But what if I was wrong? The meeting went smoothly. I immediately developed a rapport with the treating physician. On the return trip from the meeting, my new client called his senior attorney and said eight magical words regarding our meeting with the physician, “He said everything Laura said he would say.” I was elated and very relieved!
 
  Since that day my new attorney-client who I’ve been with now for six months won’t meet with a healthcare professional without me.
 
 

Laura M. Averette, RN, MSN, CPHRM, CLNC,

 
My favorite attorney-client is the one from whom I get the most work! However, that is not the only reason he is my favorite. He has a great sense of humor and communication with him is easy. He has two assistants and I have an equally easy time with both of them. There is continuous banter and chatter back and forth between all four of us, and it makes the working relationship lots of fun. The attorney is bright, insightful, positive and he appreciates all that I do for him. He listens to me and my opinions and is genuinely interested in what I have to say. He comes to the table with no preconceived notions. He is open minded and easy to work with.
 
  Most of my cases with this attorney are short, quick and pretty routine. There was one instance where I discovered medical malpractice on top of the personal injury. He was very receptive to my delving deeper into the case and preparing a much more comprehensive report. He told me repeatedly that he would not have been able to do this without me and in fact, would not have even been aware that anything was out of the ordinary.
   
  He frequently refers me to other attorneys and I never have to wonder or guess about how he feels about my work.
   

Dale Barnes, RN, MSN, PHN, CLNC

 
My favorite attorney is my first attorney-client. Knowing that my CLNC® expertise on my first case helped this attorney win the case gave me the same awesome feeling as nailing a patient’s diagnosis as a nurse practitioner. He didn’t, however, become my favorite attorney-client until recently when we met on opposite sides of a case.
 
  I went up to this attorney and said, “Good morning, sir and how are you doing today?” The attorney replied, “I was doing fine until now when I see you are on the opposing side.” I was flattered and said, “Why thank you, sir. I will take that as a compliment.” He replied, “It was meant as one.”
 
  My attorney-client for this case wanted to know what the other attorney said and I told him. My attorney-client wanted to know if I thought my presence was unnerving for the other attorney and I replied, “Yes.” He replied, “Good.”
 
  After the case was completed (in my attorney-client’s favor), I went up to the other attorney to shake his hand. He remarked that he had noticed my work in the case and that, “as usual” I had done a good job. I wished him well and we parted.
 
  Later, at the dinner table, I told my family what had happened. My son asked me if I had apologized to the attorney for winning the case against him. I replied that I was not going to apologize for doing my work well. My son said that I would probably never consult for that first attorney again.
 
  A few months later, the first attorney called me wanting to consult with me on a case. I replied that I would be happy to consult with him. He said that he wanted to get to me before an opposing attorney consulted with me. I was flattered and said to the attorney, “Why thank you, sir. I will take that as a compliment.” The attorney replied, “It was meant as one.”
 
 

Connie S. Chappelle, RN, MN, CLNC

 
My favorite attorney-client is a sole practitioner who specializes in probate and family law. Since I have been consulting with her she has taken on more personal injury and medical malpractice cases.
 
  Her office is not too far from me and we have been working together for a couple of years, but I still haven’t met her in person. As Vickie teaches, with FedEx, email, fax and snail mail, Certified Legal Nurse Consultants do not have to be near their attorney-clients to successfully consult with them.
 
  With each case, my attorney-client continues to appreciate my help and tells me how much I teach her along the way. I enjoy working closely with her on her cases and I like knowing that I am helping a family, a child, a mother, a father or whoever has been wronged get the help they need. When someone needs care for the rest of their life, it is nice to know that I had a part in getting them what they need and that they are taken care of. It is rewarding to know that I make a difference in both the client’s life and the attorney’s life. She takes every case on as if the client is her friend. She fights for them to the end. I enjoy being right by her every step of the way. She allows me to be involved in everything so I use all of my skills I have learned over the years. This is the relationship we have built over the last couple of years and it means a lot to the both of us.
 
 

Nikki J. Chuml, RNC, CCE, FMC, CLNC

 
My favorite attorney-client was my first attorney-client, who took a chance on me by giving me my first case. Upon the attorney receiving my written work product on the first case, he then immediately handed me case #2 and case #3. When presenting the case details to that attorney on cases 2 & 3, he said, “Larry, you should be charging more for work products like these!” This positive feedback grew my confidence in leaps and bounds and inspired me to increase my hourly rate without blinking an eye, and I haven’t blinked since!
 
  After completing the CLNC® 6-Day Certification Seminar in September 2000, I immediately knew that I was trained by the best – Vickie Milazzo Institute. However, what really drove that point home was my attorney-client’s simple statement ,”Larry, you should be charging more for work products like these!”
 
  Thank you, Vickie for changing my professional life nine years ago!
 

Lawrence H. Frace, RN, CLNC

 
My favorite attorney-client is one that is in my hometown. He has a busy general practice and is in a firm with two other attorneys. One reason he is my favorite is because he has offered to speak to the NACLNC® Private Apprenticeship groups I lead for Vickie Milazzo Institute. We have gone into his office and he does “mock interviews” with each Certified Legal Nurse Consultant. He also reviews a case that he has and asks for opinions and feedback. During this time, the CLNC® consultants get a chance to talk with an attorney in an environment that is nonthreatening.
 
  They gain so much knowledge from this experience. The Certified Legal Nurse Consultants get to see our professional relationship and how comfortable we are working together. It shows them that you really can have great life-long relationships with attorney-clients.
 
 

Dorene Goldstein, RNC, CLNC

 
My favorite attorney-client tells me what she wants in a professional and respectful manner. She puts on her game face and is ready to fight for what she believes. She is also caring and kind. I would not want to be against her in the courtroom.
 
  To discuss our first case I met this attorney at a local bakery. She brought the 911 tape, crime scene and autopsy photos. After a little small talk, we got down to business. We looked through the photos, pieced together part of the case and discussed the CLNC® services I recommended for this case. The only catch…I needed to do it in five days. Normally, this would not be a problem; however, the next few days were packed. The night before trial, I met the attorney to deliver my work product. I showed her my 80-inch timeline that she requested for trial. She could not believe her eyes and said it was “perfect.” The next day I spoke with her after court. She stated the other attorneys were “impressed” and had carefully looked over the timeline. Since then, she has passed my name along to several other attorneys.
 
 

Vanessa R. Heckman, RN, MSN, CNP, CLNC

 
My favorite attorney-client is a ball of fire. She is passionate about her work and advocates for her clients and all victims of elder abuse. When she involves me in her cases, I am truly an important part of her litigation team.
 
  An MD expert I had previously worked with recommended me. I was brought in at the last minute and needless to say I had to put in long intense hours to write the report and to help develop questions for the defendant nurses and experts. The case settled and she was so happy that my report had helped to settle the case for quite a large settlement. My attorney-client attributed her success to my work product.
 
 

Sandra Higelin, RN, MSN, CS, CWCN, CLNC

 
My favorite attorney-client is a man who has a wonderful reputation as a medical malpractice attorney. For many years in a row, he has been named as a “Super Lawyer.” He is one of the rare heavy-hitters who really does take each client’s case personally, and spends many hours pouring over my reports and research. Over the years I have seen him eat, sleep and breathe his cases to the point where he has to be reminded to take a break. He has the ability to really soak in the medical information.
 
  He is now in the professional position to be able to choose to take the “pick of the crop” medical malpractice cases, but his love for his job and his clients haven’t changed.
 
  I have seen him pick up the phone to call and check on a client who has had surgery or who wasn’t feeling well. He makes his clients feel like they are special, and he’s sincere. When it comes to doing work for him, he’s a dream come true (naturally I had something to do with that!). He isn’t close enough that I can be involved with the initial consultation, so he calls me after meeting with the potential clients to give me my first briefing on the case. He tells me about the case, who the actors are in the case and we discuss the CLNC® services I will provide. He gives me what I need to know to rule out conflicts of interest and supplies the statute date. Then he lets me know if he has a budget or if it’s “carte blanche.” I always get my customary retainer delivered with the records. He is very responsive to my opinion, and most appreciative of any work I do for him.
 
  He also has a great sense of humor which makes him even more enjoyable to work with.
 
 

Jane A. Hurst, RN, CLNC

 
My favorite attorney-client is a young corporate attorney in Washington DC who represents a hospital. This attorney had not worked with a Certified Legal Nurse Consultant and was interested in many of my CLNC® services. Because my training in the CLNC® Certification Program was so thorough, my attention to details of the medical records was equally thorough, a fact he didn’t hesitate to mention frequently. I was grateful for the freedom to work independently, to use my nursing knowledge, my research experience and my ability to write reports. Over the years, we worked on many cases together and won most of them.
 
 

Camille Joyner, RN, CCM, CLNC

 
My favorite attorney-client is an attorney I met when I began working in his law firm as a Certified Legal Nurse Consultant. He had a wonderful welcoming way about him. I think the thing I liked the most was that he valued my opinion and professional experience.
 
  This attorney-client had been practicing for many years and had won many large verdicts. I consulted on a case involving a woman who had a femoral to femoral bypass graft. The surgeon actually placed the graft material into her abdominal cavity. This went unrecognized by the attending doctor and multiple radiologists addressed the anatomy and the proper placement of the femoral graft. He listened so intently and acted as if he understood completely what I was explaining. When I was done he looked at me and said, “Well, I am so glad that you could actually do this surgery and perhaps do it better than this surgeon himself. I will certainly include you when we are preparing for trial to capture some photos and show the anatomy to explain the procedure step by step.”
 
  I was thrilled. This was one of my first cases at his firm and I felt like I had hit a homerun.
 
 

Mildred Mannion, RN, BSN, CNOR, CLNC

 
My favorite attorney-client practices in a prestigious personal injury and medical malpractice law firm. As a plaintiff attorney and a partner in the firm, he has won many awards, and is highly recommended by other attorneys. He is extremely detail oriented, very practical and never hesitates to reach out to me even when it is something simple that he wants to run by me or to get my opinion about. I value his years of experience and professional advice, and he has fostered my personal growth as a Certified Legal Nurse Consultant.
 
  For someone with his experience and status he is never intimidating or boastful. He truly has a passion for practicing law and working with people and that shines through when working with him. He treats me respectfully, professionally and he values my opinion and work product. He is always open to learning and enjoys my educating him about the pieces of the medical puzzle as they apply to the cases. He has referred me to several new attorney-clients. When I am working with other attorney-clients in his office, he always stops in to say hello.
 
  One afternoon I got a call from him after he had left court on a motion in a case on which I had been consulting. He called to tell me a humorous story that he got a “kick out of” during the motion and asked if I had a minute so he could share it with me. I was so touched that he thought of me and wanted to keep me in the loop with a good laugh!
 
 

Julie Somen-Becker, RN, BSN, CLNC

 
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